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Letter to the editor
It’s not a sin to drink beer, wine

To The Daily: A very important, yet divisive, issue for Hartselle voters is the wet/dry referendum. Supposedly, many local church members have approached several of Hartselle’s businesses and have threatened to boycott their business if they support the referendum, or altogether stop shopping with them if we go wet — and the business decides to sell a legal product.

Some have said that if you support the referendum you must be an alcoholic, you abuse your wife and children and force them to do without basic necessities. Some claim that there will be nude bars and drunks lying in the street if we go wet. That’s very “Christian” of them, don’t you think?

This same “vote no” crowd refuses to acknowledge that the Bible is full of references to wine and strong drink. The Bible tells us that drunkenness is a sin, whereas having wine or a beer is not. If the wine wasn’t fermented, how did Noah and Lot become drunk? The last supper was months after grape harvesting season, yet Jesus and the disciples drank from the fruit of the vine.

Think about it. In Biblical times, there were no water purification systems and no refrigeration.

We can debate this issue until Jesus returns and neither side is going to give up. What I do know is that Hartselle is missing out on opportunities to grow economically.

Supposedly, a developer representing a major retail store and several restaurants have already inquired and moved on after learning that we were dry.

Every week, the Hartselle police blotter has several individuals who are arrested for incidents involving alcohol, yet we are a dry community. Does the “vote no” crowd think that if this referendum is defeated, then Hartselle will become as safe as Fort Knox?

Mike Dowdy

Hartselle

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I don't think they needed a water system purification. Water was not polluted by major industries, there for making it drinkable. Look at the marriage at Cana. when Jesus filled the water jugs with water and changed them into wine. People should have a freedom of choice instead of a few trying to save souls. You don't have todo your thining for me.

When Decatur went "legal", not "wet", we were promised that strip clubs and dives would be at every street corner. I have not been able to find them. Are these the same promises & predictions that Hartselle faces!? Fear is an easy sell, facts are more difficult.

We are once again at the point where select individuals are trying to use church parishioners as political pawns. Alcohol is legal to own and use in Hartselle. The selling of alcohol and getting sales tax is a fiscal issue. The citizens of Hartselle need to understand this. I realized that not everyone that consumes adult beverage legally in their homes does it responsibility, but I believe that responsible drinkers should be able to purchase these adult beverages in Hartselle. We all need to remember one fact, the individuals who abuse alcohol will purchase it anywhere they can. We do not need to punish the city as a whole because of someone's fears about our city becoming a lawless city with drunken derelicts on every street corner and drunk drivers racing down Main Street at all hours of the day or night.

Hartselle Is Missing Out On The Nightclubs And Bars, And Also The Crime That Comes With It

The same arguments every election. Its to increase revenue for the schools and gain new business in Hartselle. Why don't the wet supporters just say I want to drink, so I will vote wet. Why hide behind some excuse. Why all the attacks on the Christians that are opposed to it. Some Christians will vote wet because they drink. Your beating a dead horse with all the propaganda. People vote their personal beliefs. It gets closer every election and will eventually go wet. Be patient wet supporters. Until then crank up your car and go to Decatur and quit whining.

Mike, I completely respect your position that Hartselle should be wet. That's 100% your opinion and you ought to be able to vote to support that opinion. However, blaming Christians for supporting their opinion is absolutely wrong. I've seen a couple of your letters to various editors and all of them seem to have the same core idea - Christians who try to support their beliefs are wrong, want the community to fail, and don't even understand their own religion anyways (i.e., "it's not a sin to drink beer, wine"). I'm sure you know much more than the educated people who are over the churches and christian schools in our area, but I would question your real motivation here. Do you really think it is wrong for a person to tell a business owner they're not going to come into their store if they start selling a product they find objectionable? I must have missed your letter to those people boycotting Chickfila a few weeks ago because they didn't agree with the companies position. Again, you have the right to believe and support whatever position you want; but so does everyone else, even those no-good, econony-killing, rabble-rousing Christians.

After reading about most arrest in the hartselle area it seems that the method of choice for drunkeness is called METH!

Thank you Zach. Well said

Just weigh the pros and cons. Hartselle might get an Applebee's and the kids can have greater access to early age drankin. That's two cons right there. On the positive side, people that are predisposed to addiction may purify the gene pool by winning a Darwin award. That's actually a negative cus they might take out one of your loved ones with them.

Hartselle will never attract new businesses..... Sure they may get a Jacks, a new Auto Parts store or a new Antique Store downtown ever now and then but then they see how Hartselle citizens don't support them and they will close or move out of town. Some people in the town do not want change. Legalizing Alcohol sales would not help Hartselle at all because folks would still go to Decatur and Huntsville to eat and then be able to go shopping afterwards. Where can you shop at in Hartselle?? Not everyone wants to buy at Wal-Mart !! If the Wet and Dry supporters want to do something worthwhile why don't they donate all this money to The John Mark Stalligs Special Needs Playground so it can be finished. People know how they are going to vote!!! I personally don't need to see 50 signs around town telling me how to do so!!! All we have is a group of Wet supporters calling the Christians Hypocrites for stating their beliefs on this issue, as well as a group of Dry supporters calling the Wet supporters alcoholics for wanting legalized Alcohol sales. There are alot of churches in Hartselle but not everyone in Hartselle is a christian. If Alcohol is legalized will that mean that everyone in Hartselle will drink and become an alcoholic? Certainly not, people are going to do what they want, not what someone else wants them to do!!!

@ Mike….God calls drunkenness sin. He also says it is an abomination to give drink to your neighbor. Abortion is legal it is still murder. Just because something is made legal don't make it OK. The Holiness of God and his word is the standard to govern and live by. The opinion of a person or group of people should not try over rule it.

Dear Hartselle. PLEASE VOTE NO.... because... DECATUR NEEDS your Alcohol TAX MONEY.

Bob, Me And My Family And Friends Will Vote NO, So Decatur Can Keep The Nightclubs And Bars, And Also The Crime That Goes Along With It

So if Hartselle benefits from alcohol revenue tax (new roads, new schools, new stores, update city infrastructure, etc) I can assume that thoise who are so opposed to alcohol sales will refrain from using any of these. Yeah right.

Vote No!

And Tony, Decatur is wet. How many new roads have you seen in Decatur lately? Ever driven on any of Decatur's streets?

There are several and I have driven on many of Decatur's streets. I don't buy the alcohol argument people are making for Hartselle. I think it is an easy platform for religious fanatics to jump on. If alcohol were the issue they would have Nyquil, Vanilla extract and other similar products pulled off the shelves in stores.

Please vote no Hartselle, Decatur appreciates you and the flow of your money in our revenue and tax base. This is serious for the city of Decatur!!! A great deal of money flows into the revenue system via Hartselle's consumers of alcohol. VOTE NO!!!!

Please vote no Hartselle, Decatur appreciates you and the flow of your money in our revenue and tax base. This is serious for the city of Decatur!!! A great deal of money flows into the revenue system via Hartselle's consumers of alcohol. VOTE NO!!!!

Steve is exactly right. It is widely known the during the last "vote no" campaign the Big A store at the foot of the hill gave a SUBSTANTIAL contribution to the vote no effort. They did this because they know if Hartselle goes wet, that store DIES... It seems that the businesses of Decatur understand the amount of revenue involved here... Hartselle better do something quick. They have a lot of things half paid for and have realized they are falling way short. If the revenue required doesn't come in then it will be taken out of the citizens pockets. People better open their eyes. Hartselle will eventually go wet; however, every year that it stays dry is another step closer to the city digging into your wallets a little deeper.

I Would Rather Pay More Taxes Here In Hartselle, Than To See Hartselle Go Wt And Be Like Decatur, THEY Are NO BETTER OFF FOR AS THE TAXES ON THE ALCOHOL, Look At Their Streets And Their Schools, They Are A Lot Worser Than Hartselle, I Can;t See Where It Has Helped Decatur

I'm not worried about the Tax money, Schools or Streets!!!! I just want to be able to drive 2 minutes to buy my Booze instead of driving 10 min. to the bottom of the hill!! Even though I would miss seeing my buddies from Hartselle Church of Christ in there picking up their weekend supply!!!! VOTE YES!!!!

@ Ronald . . . LOL. Nice . . . very very nice. And true.

WELL SAID RONALD --NO BS JUST STRAIGHT TALK WHICH HYPOCRTITES CANT HANDLE. AS ONE SAID ABOVE --I HAPPENED TO HEAR A COUPLE CHATTING IN CRACKER BARREL LAST WED ABOUT HARTSELLE WHERE THEY LIVED AND SUPPORT THE NO ALCOHOL RULE AND THEY SEEMED TO BE DISCUSSING IT TO PLEASE THOSE IN HEARING DISTANCE. MOST OF THOSE LISTENING SEEMED TO AGREE AND ONE WOULD THINK .THERE GOES THE VOTE FOR BOOZE HERE IN HARTSELLE. AT 5 PM 1 1/2 IN DECATUR. ONE CAN ONLY ASSUME THAT THEIR SUPPORT OF NO BOOZE IN HARTSELLE THEY /HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THAT 10--12 BOTTLES OF SIN SEX AND CRIME OUT AND DUMP IT INTO THE HARTSELLE WATER SYSTEM. I MEAN YOU KNOW HE IS FROM HARTSELLE., THEY TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN--IE HEALTHY WATER ETC-- AND NO BOOZE FOR SALE.. TANKS BRO I SLEPT WEALY VELLY GOOT LAS NITTTE . .HICCUP

NOW ALL I SAID ABOVE IS NOT TRUE---YOU SEE IM PRATICEING TO BE A LIBERAL AND MUST LEARN TO MIX FACTS WITH LIES IN ORDER TO INSURE NO ONE KNOWS THE TRUTH CORRECT MR/MS LIBERAL A PARTY I WAS ONCE ASHAMED TO BE A PART OF. COMMENTS WELCOME

The rest of the country figured it out in 79 years ago, about the same time electricity became standard in homes. It's called the 21st Amendment; check into it. I'm amazed the country hasn't totally crumbled and fallen apart with all of the nightclubs and bars that were established due to the repeal of prohibition. You show 'em Hartselle: Shout your message loud and proud- "We Will NOT Move Forward into the 1940's!!!" Stay classy, intelligent and above all....SOBER. Oh, and progressive. I'm pretty sure the "vote no" signs use the word "progressive." Makes perfect sense to me.

Linda N, the last time I looked Hartselle is far from "crime free".

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