Well written Ronnie.

It bears pointing out that we are uniquely postured to capture the bulk of county traffic passing through town already to purchase at the Decatur City limit. I mean no disrespect to Mr. Hughes, but his numbers are likely erroneous due to their subjective nature. Cullman went wet, and draws heavily from the county. Cullman's revenue is staggering, and with their well scripted ordinance, with strict signage provisions, there is no discernible change in the town's character.

We have Moulton, Arab, Athens...all recent converts, and all of them agree...no bars, no strip clubs, no increased crime, no increased DUIs. What they do report is increased revenue, increased allure to business, and a progressive posture.

It is time to abandon the nanny state mentality. Decatur has effectively made Priceville wet. The utopian argument is null. Let's not only keep OUR money local, but take fiscal advantage of our control of exit 334 and the unused real estate in the vicinity.

The facts of the matter yield a decisive argument for a yes vote in Priceville. The informed in the no crowd acknowledge this, but revert to moral agendas and symbolism over substance. Our population is more educated, progressive, and independent than ever...lets give them all the tools they need to make our quaint town competitive.

Finally, before sensational rhetoric ensues, we all know there are some who abuse freedoms and liberties to the point that they bring harm to others. In regard to alcohol, those folks are already here, going wet will have no effect on that. As with gun control, alcohol control in Priceville is a detriment to the majority of well mannered, law abiding, mostly Christian social drinkers who would prefer to buy local.

Regardless of your stance, please exercise your right to vote on Nov. 6th!

Tom Fredricks

Citizens For A Better Priceville

Very well said Tom.

I agree with Tom's comments. I don't drink, but I don't have a problem with those who choose to do so. Each person is entitled to make their own decision. This is America...not Iraq or Iran !!!

All one has to do is attend one of Fredricks concerts to see what drunks look like having fun....to the point of needing medical attention. See a red solo cup...see a drunk. Red solo cups, mud, trucks, and rednecks are a danger. Make them continue to have to hide from the public when they are in their drunken stupor.

If They Go Wet, They Will Still Not Up Scale Restaurents, They Don't Come To And area because of it being wet, they come to the area based upon population, Pricev ille Is Not Big Enough For Them To Come There

Ted,

We do not endorse or support illegal consumption of alcohol. Come to the Dustin Lynch and Chris Cagle show this Saturday and see for yourself!

To the chagrin of the no camp, if I HAD fiscal initiative to profit from alcohol sales, I would instill and enforce a "no outside" drink policy. We would have more funding for more security, and a more disciplined structure. We do announce that Priceville is dry at each and every event, and will do so again Saturday, as well as inviting our patrons to go vote if they don't like it.

Ted, nobody is forced onto our property. They come because they want to. We sell fun stuff. We believe the path from cradle to grave has a myriad of opportunities to explore that go beyond essentials. We don't expect everyone to agree with that philosophy, but we would appreciate you staying out of our way! We promise to leave you to your secluded, complacent, condescending, and boring ways. Live and let live brother, but let us not confuse zest for immorality.

You may not know this, but at our grand opening, Justin Moore recognized the patriotic and Christian nature of the host facility and crowd he was performing for and interjected a wonderful testimony and statement of faith into his performance! Sir, we can't make that stuff up!

All said, I realize that the more effective we are, the more some people will oppose us or find fault...in fact, it is an indicator of our awareness in the community! It also means many many more appreciate the refreshing, open, and aggressive approach to making life as fulfilling and fun as we can!

See you Saturday! Give me a heads up and I will get you a meet and greet pass for either entertainer!

For Tom

Keep up the forum brings perspective to the arguments.

For Linda N.,

From someone who does research professionally please check your facts, yes, population and location are major factors in a determination to place a chain restaurant in a given location. Transit population traveling on transportation arteries (major highway corridors consisting of two nodes such as Interstate 65 and Hwy 67) are one of the determining factor for a chain restaurant. An additional factor is profitability, If they cannot compete in a market economy they will not build, This is why Olive Garden did not build in Decatur until Sunday sales of alcohol were approved, its also why no competing chain will build in any area without alcohol sales, they can compete and the locations closes. Check with the PR/Business office of any major chain and they will provide you with a comparison list they use to determine location and you can match my facts.

Enjoy your alternative lifestyle to it's fullest Fredricks, but don't try to pass it off as being good for the community. Keep reminding patrons that illegal alcohol will not be permitted on the premises while casting a wink and lifting a red solo cup in the air to show that you're about as serious as a drunk redneck can get while playing in the mud.

Confuse zest for immortality? You obviously are confusing a "myriad of opportunity" for immorality and lust. Do I need say more....or could it be better stated by your employees?

Some expect to profit from alcohol sales, which is not good enough reason to compromise on a basic moral issue....Many generations of good people before us have fought to protect Priceville from alcohol who would not compromise, we owe them and we owe our children and grandchildren to protect them from alcohol.....I hope everyone will do the safe thing and just say No to alcohol and the blood money it would bring..

I remember all the churches in Priceville standing together firmly against alcohol....One great evangelist from Huntsville in the early 1950's who preached our revival when I was small told about the "Bloody Bucket" bar outside Huntsville with its violence, prostitution and threats against him for opposing them........Now all this has moved into Huntsville and is on the way to Priceville unless we stop it....

Ted,

My ambitions for interaction with the people of Priceville ARE for the common good. I maintain a good clean facility to the highest standards. I intend to share this with the community, and have an attractive, comfortable, safe, and entertaining venue. Not sure who you are, and for some reason, people tend to cower from publicly stating their views here. Would you care to share?

Now, lest you get confused...this is not a "drunk redneck venue". You are welcome to come Saturday and see for yourself. My offer for meet and greet passes stands.

Finally, "Do I need say more....or could it be better stated by your employees?"...What does this mean? This is vague and incomplete, you most certainly need to say more. Open up man, we may not agree on the issue, but this cloak and dagger nonsense is juvenile and ineffective. Man up, tell us who you are, and what you have to say...just keep it clean, this is a family newspaper!

James!

You are here! And you have brought 1950's rhetoric with you! James, James...we have come a long way since 1950! Women in the workforce, racial integration, the cold war and, social media, and the decline of censorship... James, let me bring you to the 21st century: We are integrated...women, minorities, and the good 'ol boys share the same water fountain, fear mongering died in 1972 with J.E. Hoover, and life moves at a much faster pace with the utilization of the microchip, email, facebook, and the Decatur Daily online forums! We are permitted to say what we think, and have differences of opinion. Drumming up social initiatives from the 1950's is misguided, outdated, and obsolete. The majority of Priceville residents were not even alive in 1950. Lets keep the discussion relevant and lively and reserve acrimony and bitter "when I was young" argument for the pulpit...

Oh, all of you are welcome to join us on Facebook at www.fb.com/betterpriceville. It is an open forum for lively discussion, but personal attacks, badgering, name calling, or threatening language will be deleted in accord with FB policy, and good taste...

I'm in the phone book Fredricks...but on the subject of "keeping it clean", i suppose that you are making reference to the clean

Lingerie Party that you chaperoned in your basement. It may just be me, but I feel that allowing alcoholic beverages to be served to minors under your supervision makes you an immoral person and ineligible to lecture others on the pros and cons of liquor sales. Play in the mud and have fun for now, and hopefully you'll live long enough to be have a "secluded, complacent, condescending, and boring" life when you grow up,

Ted...Ted...Ted...

No Ted in the phone book...

But lets hear about this lingerie party in my basement! If there was a lingerie party in my basement, I sure as heck missed it! We have had murder mystery parties in my basement, but those were attended by mostly church folk, and they most certainly were not in lingerie...

Ted...were you at my house in lingerie? Have you met James? You guys don't have a grip on the facts...James told the P'ville city council that I was promoting monster truck shows. When questioned about it, he babbled something about someone somewhere in Hartselle telling somebody that we were having monster trucks. We are not having, nor have we ever had a monster truck event. You generally do that sort of thing in an arena...it was an ignorant statement.

Your statement is equally ignorant. I have never hosted anything remotely close to a lingerie party, and I most certainly would not want to see my employees in lingerie... Please expound...oh, and tell us your last name so that we might validate your existence! Or hit me up on Facebook, where you can see pictures of our murder mystery parties...but sadly, no lingerie...

Don't blame you. You have no choice but to deny.

Sounds like its all about helping Tom make money.....If they gave points for arrogance Tom would win hands down, but its not....Its about facts...facts documented in many objective studies documenting the fact that as you increase the availability of alcohol, community violence increases..One such study, "How Alcohol Outlets Affect Neighborhood Violence." Published by the Prevention Research Center, is good reading for all voters, hopefully before we end up with something we don't want, just so some can make money...To see some fair press coverage on the problems of alcohol sales in Priceville, especially legitimizing alcohol sales within plain sight of the schools and churches, sending exactly the wrong message to the kids, just google WHNT Priceville to Vote on Alcohol Referendum and you get both views.....Those who know its wrong and those who want to profit from it.....

Now, Mr. Ted,

Keep it clean was a reference to not getting ugly on this forum. The DD will pull this forum if you cannot control yourself.

You made accusation as follows: "Do I need say more....or could it be better stated by your employees?" When pressed, you gave no substantive response. You purported allegations that are false, and to top it off, your allegations suggested impropriety at my residence, presumably the Hartselle one, regarding lingerie. Sir, my employees are men...they do not wear lingerie (to my knowledge) and if they did, they would not be at my residence. Keep talking, you undermine your own credibility!

Now, to steer us back on course, in what context do personal attacks, assuming you can come up with something substantive, have to do with the discussion of legalizing alcohol sales in Priceville?

Ted...nobody uses the phone book anymore. If you tell us your name, we can send the 21st century bus by and you and James can ride to Decatur for a nice cold beer:)...

Google....."WHNT Priceville to Vote on Wet Dry Referendum".......Those who are promoting alcohol sales are trying to make those of us who oppose more alcohol sales in Priceville look like backward hayseeds whose Christian views are out of date......Most of us would not agree with this kind of amoral rhetoric.....VOTE NO TO Alcohol, for the future of our kids and grand kids....as well as keeping drunks off the road....

James,

You have never met me. It is arrogant of you to call me arrogant. I may very well be, but you are not in a position to make that statement, sir. I may just be observant and articulate, and you simply mistake those characteristics for arrogance.

I like the facts, I have requested your presence to debate those facts...to date, you have declined.

Or just come get that coffee...bring Ted...

I did have blow up dolls at my 40th birthday party, but that was at the Smith Lake residence, and it was a joke, nobody actually fornicated with them! Come to think of it, they may have been in lingerie.... We were all in swimwear. I had a one piece on. One of the girls did lose her head, literally. You can't go down a waterslide on a blow up doll, their heads come off.

...Ted? Were you at my 40th birthday party? Surely not! You mad 'cause we didn't invite you? Who are you?

Ted, I make no apology for having fun. After you friend me on facebook, you will see the pictures of my 40th bday. You will see we had fun. The fat doll actually survived and went to Sturgis!

That has absolutely nothing to do with business, or integration of legal alcohol sales in Priceville....stay focused!

The debate is over.....making money on alcohol is a loser....putting down Christians for opposing alcohol is a loser.....

Windwill beverages on Hwy 67 is 1,127 feet from Priceville City Limits. Alcohol sales in Priceville is a moot point. It's there already regardless if Priceville is Wet or Dry.

We have covered this James. The vast majority of Christians worldwide have no compunction toward alcohol. Your position is found more in Islamic, Buddhist, and Southern Baptist (less than 30 miles from home) theology. To suggest that those who oppose your particular denominational stance are attacking Christianity...well, sir, that IS an arrogant posture! You would be pressed to find even a single congregation in unison on this issue.

Sir, your tirade at the council meeting made clear your personal losses at the hands of those who misused alcohol. You acknowledged this as the source of your bias, and none of us want to dismiss that pain, you are entitled to it. however, you just acknowledged the debate is over, that you are beaten on factual grounds, and you now wish to revert to a weak religious/moral argument that most Christians would not support.

None of us is making you look like a "backward hayseed whose Christian values are out of date", sir. I have said it before...you are doing our job for us!

Tom your views are very well and politely written sir you make a excellent argument! For that I raise my Red Solo cup and salute you, as a friend! "life long"! good luck! For everyone else its just business!

Tom, your point of view is different from ours.....Yours is about making money off of alcohol.....Ours is about preserving and building on the best in our community for future generations....Keep raising your red solo cups all you want to but you are promoting the wrong answer and the wrong results........The nationwide organization, Students Against Destructive Decisions have a recommended "contract"among young people which contacts a key statement that is being skipped over in the rush to bring more alcohol into Priceville......The contract is a pledge not to make destructive decisions and to help keep friends from making destructive decisions concerning "ALCOHOL AND OTHER DRUG ABUSE, HIV/AIDS, risky sexual behaviors, date rape, impaired driving and abusive relationships...." They even recognize that alcohol is a gateway drug that leads to other drugs.....Maybe you and your red solo cup friends and others who want to make money off of alcohol sales should sign it......Any of us who have ministered in the jails have seen too much of what you seek to glorify....

Concerning, country music, no it won't send you to hell, but its dominant message of getting drunk, bar room whoring, broken families and all that goes with alcohol, is the wrong message to promote, even if you can make money off of it....

James,

Like our little town, country music has evolved. I know you are stuck in the 50s, but mama, trains, trucks, gettin drunk, and prison just aren't the cornerstone of today's country.

This week:

#1 Jason Aldean, Take a Little Ride -- Is about courting

#2 Dustin Lynch, Cowboys and Angels -- Is a tribute to his girlfriend/wife

#3 Carrie Underwood, Blown Away -- Is a song about a troubled childhood

and on and on.

(Do note, #2, Dustin Lynch will be performing at 6:30 right here is Priceville! Come on out folks, you don't want to miss this!)

James, in all genres of music popular today, Country music best reflects God, Country, and Family. It is as real and poignant as ever. I suppose you would pefer Tupac, 50 cent, Lil Wayne and Snoop to be the role models for our kids! Do you even bother to check facts before you let your mouth off it's leash?

You crack me up...you lose, say things like "i will be away for a few days", or "the debate is over", and then with just a poke, you give us more and more fodder...

Keep talking sir, you are doing our job for us!

Ruth,

You are sweet. Don't explain it to James!

Has anyone heard from Ted?

Tom sounds desperate in marketing his wares....

James,

Why does promoting our event sound desperate to you? This is free advertising! Kind of like telling people to google your whnt appearance!

Our events are growing and getting traction. The community LOVES them! And your continued bloviating just gives me a platform to plug!

Keep up the good work, sir, you are doing my job for me!

Promoting alcohol is slimey by its very nature and no matter how you dress it up and put lipstick on it a pig is still a pig...

Tom, I'm not surprised you picked Jason Aldean as one of your role models. I understand TMZ just posted pictures of him making out with a woman, not his wife, in a bar....I also understand that he put a statement on his Facebook page that said...."I screwed up. I had too much to drink, let the party get out of hand and acted inappropriately at a bar....". The tragedy is the effect this will have on his wife and two little girls....And you want to promote this kind of thing in Priceville? Most people know better than to accept this kind of environment in Priceville.....Thanks for making our case for us....By the way your credibility is in the ditch.

Tom, I'm not surprised you picked Jason Aldean as one of your role models. I understand TMZ just posted pictures of him making out with a woman, not his wife, in a bar....I also understand that he put a statement on his Facebook page that said...."I screwed up. I had too much to drink, let the party get out of hand and acted inappropriately at a bar....". The tragedy is the effect this will have on his wife and two little girls....And you want to promote this kind of thing in Priceville? Most people know better than to accept this kind of environment in Priceville.....Thanks for making our case for us....By the way your credibility is in the ditch.

Yea, Jason Aldean is not on our roster, he is on Bob Kingsley's. You didn't read accurately. I was illustrating the fundamental differences between today's country and what you recognize as country music. We understand you are over 70, and may not be fully in touch with today's pop culture...

Now...TMZ...really? You, sir, a beacon of the community and purveyor of truth, justice, and the American way are watching TMZ? You do realize that is a gossip rag celebrity expose website and television "documentary", much like the stuff you would buy under the TV Guide in the checkout aisle back in your day!

You crack me up with your feeble attempts to obtain information, and I expect the readers of this forum are equally amused! Did you learn of this large retailer coming to Priceville, our monster truck shows, and lingerie parties (shout out to Ted, here) on TMZ as well?

Keep up the good work, sir, you are doing our job for us!

I would expect such comments from somebody sleazy enough to try make money from from the sale of alcohol...

How Christian of you sir, to demonize a man who has already acknowledged the error of his ways according to you when you quoted him as saying "I screwed up". I am thinking if we were sitting around with Jesus having this conversation, he might just put you in your place and say, "Now Jimmy, cut the boy some slack, he sinned and repented." Jesus was a pretty compassionate fellow, he has a book out...been on the bestseller list since Gutenburg invented the printing press! Check it out!

Now, to correct you further...Jason Aldean is not one of my role models...he is number one on the country charts as we speak, which was the whole point of the #1, #2, #3 thing. In my opinion, Jason Aldean is more of an actor than a musician. I enjoy lively debate, but this business of continually fact checking your accusations is turning out to be work...and you are supposed to be doing that for me!

Not for me to judge, but I didn't see where he repented....I saw where he apologized to his fans....I think you ought to apologize to the people of Priceville for being so obnoxious to people who disagree with you...

Then don't judge, sir! The only people I have dealt with on this issue is you and Ted...you are a big boy, I have seen you in action with the City Council. Ted ran away, and has no last name to date...so it's just me and you brother!

I haven't offended your sensibilities have I James?

Just a cursory read here, but you have, on this very thread:

1. Accused me of soliciting blood money. Sir, blood money is generally payment for killing someone. I have not done that.

2. Accused me of being arrogant toward you. Sir, you cannot attest to that unless you know me personally.

3. Accused me of putting down Christians. Sir, that is definitively false. I am a Christian. I don't tend to self-deprecate.

4. Accused me of being desperate in my marketing. Sir, this coming event promises to have the largest crowd to date.

5. Accused me of being slimy. I spelled it correctly, you did not.

6. Accused me of having no credibility. Sir, in the same discourse, you quoted and referenced TMZ as your gospel...

7. Accused me of being sleazy. Sir, again you do not know me, but that is name calling, meaning corrupt or immoral. We disagree on the sale and taxation of Alcohol. Beyond that, you do not know me. I am opinionated, abrupt, and as straight up as anyone you will ever meet. My objectives, beliefs, and opinions are an open book. There are plenty of descriptive words you could use, bus sleazy is not one of them.

Again, just a cursory read, but you, sir, have inaccurately portrayed my charter at least 7 times in this very thread. Your propensity for distortion and proliferation of disinformation undermines YOUR credibility, sir. As a minister of the Gospel, you are expected to speak truths. Have you considered the negative ramifications of your own flock watching your diatribe and the potential damage your accusatory behavior could have on your Evangelical credibility?

I present this somewhat playfully, but you may wish to take pause before you post again!

Not at all........

:-)

Tom: "Have you considered the negative ramifications of your own flock watching your diatribe and the potential damage your accusatory behavior could have on your Evangelical credibility?"

James: "Not at all........"

Maybe you should...

This is better than a Saturday night flea pickin' at the Brooksville basketball stadium, arena and mud pit! Thanks for the entertainment. I'm munching my popcorn...carry on.

What we have here is two opposite perspectives.....traditional, moral view of alcohol, a dangerous drug that should not be introduced for legal sale into an area to be sold for profit by self-serving promoters......and the other view that its OK to compromise, everybody else is doing it....doesn't matter that its a dangerous drug and puts more drunks on the road and sends the wrong message to the kids, we can make money selling it at drunken concerts and bars........Once you decipher Tom's pretentious words, you see that he wants to make money off of alcohol and he mocks Christians, and ministers in particular who get in his way to try to silence them.......As far as ramifications concerning my flock, I work hard to be their pastor and don't worry about the attacks against me.....It does concern me though for their sake when obviously pro-alcohol sales advocates leave intimidating messages on the church phone, as the caller put it....."I have 13 DUI's and I hear your pastor doesn't like alcohol so I'm going to send him 13 vials of cocaine......" This upset the 86 year old woman who heard it. It should not have happened, but it did but the righteous God I know will deal with it.....My conscience is clear....Bash me and ridicule me all you want to....Bringing alcohol sales into Priceville is still wrong.

Liquor has obviously clouded your memory Fredricks. I know that 2008 is a long time back to remember, but try to clear your mind and concentrate. Tell us about your dealings with your church being held for ransom unless you become a trustee. Ever take your minor son on "the path from cradle to grave" for a " myriad of opportunities to explore"....meaning exposing him to drunkeness and nudity at a bike rally? Do you really think that was the right thing to do? If you want to expose your children to those types of environment...that's between you, your wife, and God. But I would suggest that you refrain from going on the morality lecture circuit anytime in the immediate future.

Didn't mean to slight you for the last few days. Been on the road and will be leaving again this afternoon, but I'm sure that you will still be frothing at the mouth as long as you have an audience.........sir.

I too have to go on the road sometimes to make a living...to places like Washington DC and Chicago where the results of legal alcohol are lying drunk on the sidewalk and where violent crime is rampant, and to places like Detroit, where the police have warned people to stay out because their city is a war zone.....Check all the statistics, even Birmingham, and you see the results of alcohol......Why should Priceville open the door to this kind of garbage just so a few slick promoters can make money.

Ted! You came back!

I drink only beer. Never could stomach hard liquor.

As far as my financial interactions with my church, tread lightly, you might embarass yourself. If you are man enought to give us your last name, and come sit down with James and I for that coffee, I will be more than willing to give you a full discourse of my church interactions and history.

Was taking Mike and Steve to Sturgis 4 years running a good idea? You bet it was! They got to spend a full week with their father without the contraints of the normal routine. The did ride motorcycles (oooh, go off on that one if you will!). Sir, you cannot hide the world from your kids. You can teach them how to function in it, and manage themselves in accord to expericence all they can. The only boobs they saw were on fat biker chicks...I figure that scared 'em away from boobs for at least a couple of years!

I have let them fly, ride ATVs, Harleys, watersports, and on and on, but always with a watchful eye. I COULD have left them in a box, and let them run wild when they hit adulthood, but I chose not to, and they are all 3 well rounded, socially integrated adults now. The proof is in the pudding...I did it right. When you two come for coffee, we can debate the right way to raise kids!

Now, BOTH of you:

Lets draw an interesting parallel...the internet...

Both of you use it...daily... You are using it right now! It is a tool, a progression of our technology, and the social impacts are much more staggering than, say, alcohol...

After Al Gore invented it, the internet was designed and intended to be used for technology tranfer between intellecuals at think tanks and universities. Immediately after its inception, the rest of the world started surfing porn.

James, Ted, whatever shall we do! The sins of the flesh are coming to Priceville. Our town will never be the same! Our kids will never survive this onslaught of open information and "moral terpitude" (shout out to Beulah Ballbricker!, you boys will need to google that one, which ironcally uses the internet...).

I know! Lest pass a law making the internet illegal. Then our kids will never have to see it or be exposed to it. They will all become saintly in their demeanor, say sir and maam, go fishin like opie instead of embibing in demon html...

Ah, but that will not work...Decatur has the internet, and the kids will just use their cell towers and 4G to sneak a peak into the world of 2012...

This analogy is funny...and very poignant. We have 2 choices. Raise our kids in a box, or show them how to walk through the minefield. If they jump out of the box, and run through themelves, they probably wont make it. If they have been shown the path, they have a much better chance of making it, and the allure of the mines is substatially diminished.

Guys, it is a different world than when you were formidable. Your ways are no longer viable.

Now, back to the point at hand...Priceville needs to allow the sale and taxation of alcohol becuase it is already present and available, and we are missing revenue, devopment posture, and without upgrades, our town will go the way of the Commedore 64!

James,

You say someone left you a message and didn't identify themselves? That is simply awful. I think James and I agree, if you wish to excercise your 1st Amendment right to free speech, you need to identify yourself!

Dont you agree Ted?

Tom wants to open Priceville up like the wild west.....It sounded like a threat when he said he was thinking about hosting a big biker rally in Priceville to send a message to those who oppose alcohol......When people are more motivated by making money than looking out for the community every thing they say is suspect...I hate to think what the drunken country music concerts will be like on Bethel Road..

Nothing Good Can Come From alcohol

Linda is right and I agree with Ted that Tom's endorsement of public nudity to enighten our young people is an incredible step in the wrong direction for Priceville...

James,

I never endorsed public nudity! You infer, hand your misinformation to your mouth, and run like the wind! I don't really intend to have a bike rally either, that was tongue in cheek...I don't sell motorcycles, in the same manner I don't sell monster trucks. You do realize that you are being toyed with, don't you? Your arguments are weak, and you bounce between facts and studies and moral and religious conviction. You are confused and conflicted.

Ben, how is the popcorn?

Here is the best part James, you don't have to come to our show. It is voluntary. You and Ted can stay home and surf TMZ... Do not encroach on the liberties of free citizens simply because you disagree from a theological perspective...it is un-American. You sir, a retired member of the armed forces, should know this. Surely you support our constitution...don't you?

You have every right to say your mind, and so do we. Once the voters speak, we will proceed with tasteful integration of legal alcohol sales in this quaint community, and nothing else will change, just like Athens, Cullman, Arab, etc. 2 years from now, you will have a right to petition for a dry vote...good luck with that.

I don't believe having women expose their breasts to teenage boys where alcohol is sold in as Tom espouses is the kind of "moral" education our kids need.....Sounds to me like Tom has no problem with bars and strip clubs in Priceville, and he is speaking as the leader for the alcohol for money people......We need to watch out before Priceville takes a step downhill that is irreversible....

By now with the truth out on Tom's "moral" beliefs, I can understand why people will distance themselves from him by the droves.

........Tha is except for rowdy outlaws that Tom wants to attract to Priceville......We don't need to open the door to what Tom stands for, who always sounds like a bully who wants to pick a fight...We just don't need this kind of trouble in Priceville...

James...I love your inferences...they make you appear inept. Notice I said "make you appear"...because we have not yet had that coffee, I cannot yet definitvely say you are in fact inept. Do you see the difference? The readers of this forum surely do!

Nobody cares what you believe about breasts or anything else! Nobody cares what you think any of this "sounds like". As far as people distancing themselves, stop by Saturday and have a look at all the people who don't want to be here!

As far as picking fights, you guys put up the "strip club and bars" signage last go around knowing that Priceville would enact an ordinance sufficient to prevent such things. Your rhetoric is childish and either profoundly naive, or intentionally misleading. In either case, you discredit yourself. Bad preacher! Bad!

Keep flappin' James, you are doing my job for me!

Tom's loose talk against preachers is to be expected....exposing women's breasts to kids is a good thing? You know better.....Concerning strip clubs I passed by one in Madison today on the way to work that is not supposed to be there, but there are plenty of them in Huntsville.....We all know that money talks and as happened in Decatur it started out to be package sales only, but then the bars, fights and DUI's came.....If Priceville goes wet Tom and the others who want to sell alchol will make money, but everybody else will lose, and there will be no turning back....Its just not worth it so Tom can be a financial success....

James...you reap what you sow. I have had nothing but positive comments for Minister Rhodes...he spoke eloquently, intelligently, and politely to the council. You, sir...well...did not. Do not put yourself in company with other preachers, sir, you do them disservice!

You are correct, going wet to serve the interest of Fredricks Equipment is not a justification for a wet vote. We will do fine either way. Creating an environment conducive to effective utilization of the 334 interchange IS. Your rhetoric is tired out, uninformed, as as you aptly described in the previous thread "simpleminded" (your words...not mine).

James, you never commented on your internet addiction...

And by "kids", I mean my 22 and 23 year old. I call them kids. They have been adults for several years now. You probably do not realize this, because you have let your mouth have possession of the ball, handed off by Ted, who has no last name...yet...

James,

Consider this...if alcohol sales were paramount to our business model, we could simply annex into Decatur (they are right across the street, and by street, I mean I-65). We are the southernmost property on Bethel currently in city limits. Your prehistoric ramblings would be moot, and we could implement any form of entertainment currently allowed in Decatur, including Sunday sales (gasp!). We would also landlock Priceville to the south, and that would be unfair to Priceville. All of your worst nighmares would surely come to pass...evil topless bikers and monster trucks clogging the arteries of Priceville and making lots of noise, playing demon country music and sporting lingerie!

That is not my business model. We are first and foremost a premier dealer for Stihl, Mahindra, Bad Boy, Arctic Cat, G3, Legend, Chaparral, Bullet, Robalo and Stratos. Anheuser-Bush is ancillary, but a welcome addition for our entertainment functionality. We, too, like the peaceful ambiance of Priceville, and the country allure. It IS conducive to my business model. We intend to have horses, ducks, maybe a cute miniature donkey, and a nicely themed environment that is family friendly.

We love Priceville, and want to make it a BETTER place to live. Your ramblings are all over the board, and when you do stumble on a fact, it is incorrect. Let us recap. Alcohol is sold within 1 minute of the center of Priceville, and 5 minutes of all of Priceville. Behavioral patterns and social influences are not the topic of debate. We can thank Decatur for that. We want to be able to attract more business, and it IS tied to the ability to sell alcohol here. Period. Intelligent management is quite feasible and practical, and is the trend among town after town in North Alabama of similar structure. The negative ramifications that you keep harping on do not happen.

You have no case. You have no argument. You have no basis for any of your musings. Nothing you have come up with has any substance under the parameters we are debating under. We know you don't like alcohol. That's fine. Don't buy any. Tell your parishioners that alcohol is "of the devil" if you wish. Tell them not to buy any. Leave the rest of us to our own discretion.

Stubborn old folks reminiscing the past are a comedic theme, as Dana Carvey portrayed on SNL. James, this could be you! "Back in my day, we didn't have google and TMZ, we played with sticks, 'cause that's all there was...and we liked it!" Let it go, James. We still know right from wrong, we still know God, we still know citizenship. We just don't do it your way.

Deal with it....or keep doing my job!

Tell you what, James...and I mean this will all sincerity, should we prevail Nov. 6th, and you actually truly believe the demise of Priceville is at hand, I will send a 53' van trailer, a driver, and a moving crew to take you anywhere in this marvelous nation you wish to reside! Free!

Of course, after 2 or 3 years, when our quaint little town has NOT turned into Sodom or Gomorrah, you will be on your own getting back:).

Lets get serious for a minute. As it pertains to the town of Priceville:

1. Do you actually believe DUI rates will increase?

2. Do you actually believe there is any risk that we will will allow strip clubs?

3. Do you actually believe staying dry limits access to alcohol?

4. Do you actually believe the town will not gain allure to business?

5. Do you actually believe that revenues will not shift from Decatur to Priceville for a substantial net gain?

I challenge you to answer each of these questions poignantly and pervasively...

Tom,

I don't use pretentious words like you do, but look at the facts.....A fair comparison is to compare Priceville with Ardmore, Tennessee where alcohol sales have been legal for many years and where there are several bars(and the infamous Booby Bungalow strip joint is just down the road, and some kind of porn place on the other side of the interstate)....Ardmore is about the same size as Priceville when Ardmore, Alabama is considered.....Ardmore also has a violent crime rate far above the national average...........Even when I was in High school Ardmore was the place to go, (even underage high school students) for a few beers if you didn't mind the risk of getting a few teeth knocked out....What progress have they made? .Other than a few fast food places like Priceville's they have no Olive Garden Restuarants or other big bar and grill restaurants that some believe are lining up to come to Priceville...and Ardmore is even at the intersection of the interstate and a federal highway....Priceville is not.

Violent crime statistics make a good case that whatever Ardmore has we don't want it in Priceville:

Ardmore violent crime rate index when compared to the national average is as follows:

Year Ardmore Rate National Rate

2010 309.5 222.7

2009 399.7 238.0

2008 497.4 252.4

2007 410.2 259.7

2006 506.6 264.1

2005 Not published

2004 563.7 256.0

2003 764.7 262.6

2002 661.2 272.2

The numbers tell a sad story for Ardmore....a violent crime rate more than a third above the national average......something we don't need and don't want in Priceville just so you and a few others can make money..Your god is the almighty dollar and you don't really care about the people of Priceville......I'll also be glad to give you the data on the numbers on drunk driving as well as the increase in fights and rapes in and around the kind of cheap bars you are positioning yourself to operate.......And I wouldn't hold my breathe waiting for the landslide of prosperity to break out with major business re-locations to Priceville that didn't happen in Ardmore either............I hope the voters of Priceville will not be taken in by your deception and will vote no on November 6th to help keep Priceville the peaceful, prosperous place it is that is growing nicely.....without a bar on every corner...and everything that goes with them.....

James,

You didn't answer a single question...are you dodging? Nonetheless, I pulled you into a facts game, and as usual, you are completely wrong.

1. Priceville has legal sales along its border, Ardmore does not.

2. You implicitly assume crime rate is a function of alcohol sales. It is not. In Ardmore, TN, 11.5% of families are below the poverty line, in Priceville, it is only 2.2%. Already, your comparison is flawed.

3. The Bungalow has been around for years and years, and is in Elkton, TN, not Ardmore, TN!

4. The city violent crime rate for Elkton in 2010 was lower than the national violent crime rate average by 100% and the city property crime rate in Elkton was lower than the national property crime rate average by 42.48%! No reported violent crime, AT ALL, in Elkton!

James, Elkton has strip clubs and NO CRIME....

Somebody hold James' head before it pops off!!!!

Now, please address the questions posed to you, sir!

James,

Start googling...search out the best places to live in America...sort by population to improve accuracy. Oh, look, these places all have legal alcohol sales.

Wait, I do see a common trend...YOU don't live in any of those places! James, could there be a connection?

But, please, answer my questions first!

I judge by the big words you use you can read that the numbers I cited are about Ardmore, not the little town of Elkton which has its own problems......The mayor of Elkton told me at a Huntsville civic function earlier this year that Boobie Bungalow, which you know more about than I do, is an embarrassment to their community......Quit dodging the facts about Ardmore and try to speak honestly......

You misspeak yet again. I know exactly where the Bungalow is because I have traveled I-65. Either you have never traveled I-65, or your memory is failing. If you are suggesting I have actually been to the Bungalow, I have not.

Sir, I just addressed facts about Ardmore in greater detail than you did. If you want to get into a dissection of the demographics of Ardmore, Tennessee, I am game. Come on by and we will have that coffee!

I'm concerned about you James...your memory appears to be waning, and you are not processing information correctly. I fear you no longer recognize honesty, as you continue to misstate information, ignore direct questions, and attempt to establish comparative analysis that just isn't relevant, accurate, true, OR honest...

Do I need to dumb down my language for you?

Its time for Tom to do his "ridicule the narrow minded preacher" trick that he does when he doesn't know what else to do......I gave valid data about ARDMORE, which is a good comparison with Priceville concerning the negative consequences of alcohol and violent crime........ Crime that for some years was double that of the national average...I believe everybody can understand this comparison without needing Tom as an interpreter.....Time to start talking about alcohol and bar sleaze, including bar fights and shootings, rape/date-rape and the pornography that cheap bars use to compete with the strip clubs. Tom may want to jump in here since I'm sure he's better informed on these issues than a narrrow minded preacher.....

James,

You denigrate yourself for emphasis...that is probably not effective debate, but it does do my job for me.

James, by what standard do you equate crime rate to alcohol sales? James, alcohol is sold at the interstate. We are functionally wet. If crime was promulgated by alcohol sales, we would already have it! There are a myriad of factors that affect crime rate, you stubbornly ignore this fact to skew or misrepresent your argument.

Tell you what James...I will engage you in a comprehensive study and debate of Ardmore, Tennessee in regard to crime rate, alcohol, and all other relevant factors, if you agree to vote YES if I win...

Take me up on it? Bring Ted, you guys can team up on me!

TOM I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED WITH JAMES POINT ON ARDMORE'S CRIME RATE NUMBERS HE USES

661.2 272.2 FOR 2002 AND

309.5 222.7 FOR 2010

IF HIS NUMBERS ARE CORRECT THAT APPEARS TO BE A DROP IN CRIME RATE FROM 661.2 TO 309.5 OR OVER 50% HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE WITH DEMON RUM SHOWING ITS FACE IN THE PICTURE?

The numbers in the left column are the Ardmore actual index numbers by year and the ones to the right are the national average...for that year.......in all cases the Ardmore violent crime numbers are significantly greater than the national average for all the years.........maybe its just just one of those strange coincidences and the bars and alcohol didn't have anything to do with it.....but you can't blame it on the Blacks and the Hispanics....They have very few.....so keep picking away and after you understand the facts about Ardmore and it having several bars and a lot of crime we'll move on to what Priceville can expect in the sleazy bars where you and your group want to make money.....

L.E.O.:

I wouldn't use any of James' data, it probably came off TMZ's web site... If he actually takes me up on my offer, I will look into the data as it pertains to Ardmore, Tennessee myself. If they do have consistent crime in excess of the national average, it will take a little more than a cursory glance at a website to explain, but in not in line with James' agenda.

James uses words like honesty, morality, and character loosely. His attempts to argue his cause force him to slant, misrepresent, make accusations, and issue preposterous inferences that border on malice. He does disservice to his profession.

Perhaps, James, you should spend some time with Minister Rhodes...he is much more amicable and effective than you are, and from what I have seen, does in fact posses those favorable characteristics we all seek in those who truly feel the calling to expound on the entire Bible, not just the Book of James!

James,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73-bUIyt9bk

Oh, my...this will get you worked up! This is newcomer Thomas Rhett. His is currently 28 on the country charts and rising. James, would YOU have a beer with Jesus? Would you look him in the eye and tell him he was going straight to hell because he imbibed! I believe you would. I believe you are so steeped in this notion that Christians must abstain from alcohol, that you would tell my Lord and Savior all the errors of his ways.

Lest you forget, Jesus own mamma let the booze run out at a wedding festival. We aren't sure, but Jesus and his buddies may have had something to do with that. Jesus had not yet revealed Himself, and was not ready to, but momma gets her way and Jesus himself provided more wine to those who had already had "too much to drink"!

Now, this has little to do with the true discussion of the issue of Priceville going wet...but it may suffice to say that Jesus was not near as stuffy as Mr. Henderson. Come to think of it, I'm not sure if Jesus and Mr. Henderson would ever cross paths. You might even find him down at the Farm holding a red solo cup!

Well if Tom want accept my valid analysis....I'm sure L.E.O. is capable of thinking for himself and would probably like to know as I do why Ardmore which is so similar to Priceville in so many ways, exept for alcohol sales and bars, has a violent crime rate that is twice the national average over several years.....L.E.O., I'll be glad to post the website so you can see for yourself and explain it to Tom.....By the way Tom, I see why you flunked out of church.........

James,

What does flunk out of Church mean? Does your denomination have a grading scale. If so, do you have tests. If so, do you even cover anything Biblical, or is just a discourse on the Gospel according to James?

Come get that coffee and we can have lively religious debate! You may find I have a better comprehension of Biblical (the REAL Bible) precepts than you might expect.

Look forward to seeing you!

James

If we are just comparing numbers looks at a couple of more for comparison , these are for 2010 and are two local, much larger wet towns with drastically lower crime rates than the national average which for 2010 area as follows:

Property Crimes (National) 275.9 and Violent Crime 222.7

ATHENS (WET) 176.4

MADISON (WET) 173.5

Reference Site (http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Ardmore-Tennessee.htm)

For the same 2010 period FALKVILLE (DRY) shows a whopping 304 crime index.

Reference Site (http://www.city-data.com/city/Falkville-Alabama.html)

I don't think there are any strip clubs, beer joints or bars in Falkville and there numbers are only 6 points behind Ardmore's

Also another interesting study factum is that dry counties usually have a higher DUI rate than there moist kindred.

Reference Site (http://thetimestribune.com/local/x1511619555/Dry-counties-show-higher-rates-of-DUI-related-crashes)

As it was explained to me is that when Red Neck Buba wants a drink but can't buy it locally (since the bootlegger is on vacation) he goes to the nearest wet spot (For Eva or Hartselle that would be the bottom of the mountain on Hwy 31), But Buba has worked up a thirst from his long drive in the Alabama heat with no air conditioner and has to kill a six pack on the way home, Buba blames his DUI arrest on the syste

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Hold up on that car wash gentlemen!

L.E.O.---Are you suggesting that going wet could actually DECREASE DUI incidence? That those people who would give no regard to our existing laws and would expose others to risk because they drive impaired regardless might actually stop at the top of Priceville mountain, buy more booze, and weave their way home? So, because they have no regard for our laws anyway, and these knuckleheads are currently driving right through our wonderful little town, inebriated to the point of being in violation of the law, being dry actually exposes our citizens to more risk?

That is a conundrum.

James, before you go off on one of your sensational tirades and contort this discussion to try and suggest LEO and I are in favor of drunk driving...we are not.

I have already extended my condolences the loss of you mother and the near loss of your daughter I belive it was... But the simple fact is these atrocities occurred DESPITE the fact that Priceville is dry. I don't know circumstance beyond what you revealed at the infamous council meeting, but is there any possibility that either of these atrocities would have been avoided if the offenders did not have to drive through Priceville to access their booze? If the answer is yes, or even could be yes...well, you see the breakdown of your posture.

Drunks who drive without concern for others are a major social issue. Alcohol is in Decatur, and you will never change that. Turn 'em around at the city limit sign and a kid pulling out of the high school might not die...

Its backwards and messed up...and according to local law enforcement, statistically supported.

James, your efforts to create a utopia are not attainable, better make it work with what we have, and mitigate your personal losses and everyone elses. Selling and taxing the product you despise might have saved your mother from her horrific circumstance...that, sir, is convoluted indeed.

The Athens numbers are not a valid comparison since they were a dry town for most of the time that statistics were maintained......Madison raises some interesting questions....I do know that with the highest per capita income in the state they invest heavily in law enforcement and we all know that if you spend enough money on law enforcement you can keep crime down to some extent....The question is how much do you have to spend?..........The incident I observed at lunch at an upscale Madison restaurant, that I'll describe below, makes an better case against legal alcohol sales than some of the numbers do.

Back to the Ardmore comparison......Ardmore....about the size of Priceville.....wet for many years.......On the interstate.... a major federal highway(31) and a major state highway(57).......and no Olive Gardens or other major restaurants or businesses attracted over all the years, which pretty well knocks in the head the myth that major businesses are lined up to come to Priceville if Priceville goes wet......Ardmore has legal sales and several local bars....Priceville has no legal sales and no bars...Ardmore's crime when averaged over the years is about twice the national average......Priceville's crime has averaged only about half of the national average...The numbers for criminal assaults, where alcohol is a factor, are the ones to compare.....Ardmore's criminal assaults for corresponding years have been more than five times the rate of criminal assaults in Priceville......A reasonable conclusion is that the more alcohol and bars you have the more violence you have.....Another reasonable conclusion is that people who want to make money off of alcohol don't really care about the effects of alcohol on the community and the violence it brings.

What has been left out of the argument, is the sleaze that goes with bars....which may be frequented by some nice people, but which attract some of the worst......There are too many cases of alcohol related crime, for legal sales to ever be worth the misery it brings....The well publicized rapes and gang rapes in and around bars are well documented, not to menion. A 21 year old mother of two babies who stopped in a bar to buy cigarettes(not a major city, half the size of Huntsville), was raped on a pool table for two hours by several men while the other patrons laughed and jeered, and nobody including the owner tried to stop them, or even call the police....There is a kind of ugly chemistry that happens in bars that we don't want to let into Priceville......Closer to home on a local highway east of Priceville several years ago another young mother's car broke down at night, a mother whose two babies were with her, when two men stopped and raped her.....When her father rescued her he drove to Huntsville looking for the rapists, and guess where he found them.....in a bar on Memorial Parkway celebrating....No connection with alcohol? You've got to be kidding........In a work related lunch meeting a couple of years in an up scale Madison restaurant I saw a young 20 something woman and probably her boss in his late 30's, at another table and she was drunk......She probably was flattered he invited her to lunch, probably as a reward for her good work and willing to have a drink or two with him at lunch....but she was drunk and he kept ordering drinks for her while he drank very little.....I'm pretty sure that he was calculating that if he could get her drunk and take her home or somewhere they could be alone, then he could get between her legs and get what he wanted, just another conquest....and what the hell, men are men, and she's over 21 and would lose her virginity soon or late anyway, and would probably be too ashamed to tell anybody......Just another little tragedy unfolding in a nice place where alcohol was sold.....All I could do was hope she didn't get pregnant and didn't catch something, and hope that she knew that whatever she did, God would love her anyway and could help bring healing....

On my country radio station in Athens where we play play positive country music, we play a song by a major country performer who makes a good statement along these same lines, about a young woman who lost her virginity on a country road and God forgave and how she is going to love and be understanding of her baby in the years to come......

Tom and the ones who stand to gain from selling alcohol like to ridicule and belittle me, and misrepresent what I say and has even demeaned my military service.....and no I don't judge people for drinking alcohol.........But I can tell you more about the destructive effects of alcohol and the need to keep its sale out of Priceville than you want to hear........I am a minister of the Gospel and I am opposed to introducing the sale of alcohol, well documented gateway drug, something inherently dangerous, and I am totally opposed to legitimizing it in front of the young people and bringing bars to Priceville, and no matter how you sugar coat the truth they bring more trouble and cost than they are worth..........Call me a narrow minded preacher if you want to, but I ministered in the jails and prison for many years and have seen the consequences up close of the destructive effects of alcohol.....I started in the Army Reserve as a private and retired as a colonel and served many places where I saw more of the consequences of alcohol than I like to remember..

I know this will invite another theological discourse from Tom that trivializes the truth about sin, but one thing that has been left out of this discussion, except the times when its convenient to bashed me over it, is sin....Is drinking an alcoholic drink a sin?......Probably not if it has no effect on others, unless it sets the wrong example or leads to excess and the diminished control a person has over their behavior.......but I believe that promoting alcohol sales or opening a bar to make money is a sin.....The Biblical truth is that we sin when we miss the mark concerning God's moral law(and yes, I was Judge Roy Moore's state campaign manager for his last Governor's race and yes he will make a great Chief Justice.)(and since my credibility has been attacked so much, I believe its only fair to bring up that my wife and I were the first Alabamians to receive the Spirit of America Humanitarian Award for helping people).........

So what's the bottom line from God's view about sin....He hates sin, only because His righteous nature cannot tolerate sin, but because of the harm it brings to his creation, people created in His own image, people He loves so much that He really did send his only begotten Son to die in our place so we can be saved by Grace, no matter what we have done, and not face the consequences of hell...........But God will have to judge and send us to hell if we don't repent and turn away from sin and obey Him continually the best we can....The fear of God is the beginning of understanding......No matter how we screw up, God still loves us, and trivialize it if you want to, but the Gospel is not some myth and God is to be feared when we sin.....Alcohol is bad for Priceville, just not worth it......The right thing to do is to VOTE NO to alcohol sales in Priceville...If more people want signs or to help, please call me at 256 337 0826.....James Henderson

By the way, everybody is invited to the big religious freedom rally tomorrow, Saturday at the Gazebo at Big Spring park at 11:00am, hosted by Huntsville Right to Life.....There will be a good cross section of national leaders who stand for life and stand against President Obama's attempt to force Christian organizations to pay for employee birth control......Good opportunity to hear national leaders speak to include Judge Moore and a good opportunity to meet him.....Also I'll be doing the opening prayer....Hope to see you there....James

James,

I never once called into question your character. I have criticized your tactics, illustrated as best I could some overreaching statements you have made, and made attempted to get you to actually address some fundamentals of the basic argument of net socioeconomic benefit to Priceville going legally "wet". You, sir, have been a moving target.

You start with presentation of facts, or some variant of fact, then end your discourse with your opinion. That is not good argument, sir.

You left several very good openings in your discourse above, but I think we have all heard enough.

We have yard signs available as well at Fredricks Outdoor on Bethel Rd. 256-340-8899.

And since we are plugging:

Y'all come on out this Saturday for Muddin' at the Farm 2. We have Championship Mud Racing starting at 2 pm, these are professional ATV mud riders from stock to super modified running in our pond. We also have a 100' long kids pit, about 8" deep. At 6 pm, the music starts, with D. Vincent Williams opening at 6, Dustin Lynch taking the stage at 6:30, and Chris Cagle at 8 pm. At the end of the event, we will have a fireworks display.

It IS kid friendly, well lit, and we have plenty of Law Enforcement on hand.

We will be registering voters, and will have a "get out the vote" drawing. Drop your name in the pot, and Nov. 7th, we will pull out a winner for a $250 gift certificate. All you have to do is show your "I voted" sticker! (no purchase necessary to win).

Tickets are $20 today and Friday, then $25 at the gate.

70 degrees and sunny and just enough rain last night to hold the dust down!

See you Saturday!

The Priceville Committee for Positive Family Values is not after your money, but we ask your help in getting the word out to everyone in Priceville to vote no to alcohol, bars and trouble....Please remind everyone at church every Sunday between now and November 6th to make sure when they go to the polls to vote NO to alcohol.......Call me us anytime at 256 337 0826 for signs and to get involved, James

And Citizens for a Better Priceville asks you to vote no to bars and trouble, and YES to legal sale and taxation of alcohol.

Let's put our best foot forward, attract business, professionalism, and recover YOUR MONEY that Decatur is taking from us!

When we're not at church, you can come by Fredricks Outdoor, get free yard signs, CBP logos, pet the dogs, get free coffee...and enjoy lively banter!

See y'all Saturday!

To some its all about making money.......

Yes, but those people are narrow and simple minded. The rest of us see the big picture.

10 Bucks James cant let it go!

Mike R. here from Priceville Church of Christ:

I generally stay away from forums like this. However, I think the reason passions run so high on this issue is that we all want what is best for Priceville, we just have different convictions about what will bring out the best in our community. I think it would be wise if we all seek our Creator's blessing -- no matter what our views may be. We will be hosting a "Come & Go" Election Prayer Breakfast Tuesday morning, October 23, from 6:30AM - 8:00AM in the Priceville Church of Christ fellowship hall. Come by, have some breakfast and coffee, say a prayer, and go on to work. You all are invited, regardless of viewpoint. Personally, I am against alcohol sales as a matter of conviction, but some close friends (and Christians I know) support it. Let's seek God's will together and not let this issue drive a wedge of bitterness into our great community.

I agree it is a sad thing that people are willing to divide our community over their desire to make money selling alcohol and invite a prolonged fight for years to come.......

James...

Just so you know...the County did their diligence last night with a roadblock on Bethel Rd. We support their efforts fully, and we are please to annouce that NO DUIs were found. I know this isn't what you want to hear, but we had a GREAT time and our crowd was energetic and well behaved!

We had one arrest...and it was due to outstanding warrants...Our events help law enforcement achive contacts, which helps fight crime!

Just glad to do my part to help bring the community together!

So it cost the taxpayers to police Tom's big money making event and that's good for the public?......and that was woithout alcohol sales......no comparison to how it will be when alcohol will be sold all over Priceville at Concerts and at cheap bars...... Not good when the taxpayers have to subsidize private events.......Not good to have alcohol sales in Priceville.....Best to vote no to alcohol and those who would divide Priceville for personal gain....

James, your ignorance precedes you! You really need to STOP assuming...it only makes and a$$ out of you, sir! We use the reserves, and we contribute accordingly. Your propensity for misstatement is ridiculous, how do you ever expect anyone to take you seriously?

Your accusations to both the Council, and me, have been consistently incorrect. Stands to reason your conclusions in regard to alcohol sales are just as wrong...

Keep talking brother...you are doing our job for us!

James, beyond paying for any reserve officers that want to work this event, plus the off duty officers who appreciate a few extra bucks, we support our local law enforcement.

We helped fund the acqusition of Morgan Couny's third drug dog, have utilized our warehouse and distirbution facility on multiple occassions to offer immediate assistance to the drug task force for offloading trucks that are suspected of transporting illegal drugs at NO COST to the county or the taxpayer, on a moment's notice. Again...we support local law enforcement.

Sir, when you question my actions, you need to do your homework. Your failure to come and get that coffee and learn a little something about me before you pull false accusations out of thin air would go far toward you NOT looking like a belligerant old coot grasping for anything and finding nothing. Sir, you have aleinated the council through these actions, you clearly WANT to aleniate me, but you cant get your arms around any substantive facts, or even reasonable moral and religious argment.

You are at a complete loss, and I expect that IS a little frustrating for you...

James,

We have gotten this debate up and going on Facebook under the group Citizens for a Better Priceville. As this article is quite aged now, we aren't getting any traction.

Get a grandkid to show you how to get on FB, and hit us up...it'll be a hoot.